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Hello MindOpen
I turn to you and also to people who share this space,
climb out of some shots that I did not get shots and tests of the sea that make my good friend Luis, who was in yards Zamakona, this gentleman and me to my step, compressed.
I got very quiet but I'm not seeing that there are enough problems with the copyrights.
Whether, if you want to remove and nothing happens I hope your answer
Thank you very much and greetings
Javier cx9aaw
AYTON CROSS
SUNBEAM FR487
SVITZER BRUNEL
POBLET
ESVAGT CAPELLA
SVITZER BRISTOL
SALVADOR DALI
GREENOIL
MONTFORT
ELBE
Well, it seems a good amount qeu is controversy over the photos qeu subi, but these photos are stolen is very important eto q are NOT STOLEN "unless they are pictures where I have collaborated and authorization of the company where he sees fit to upload and My Digital SEAS is a very important platform to raise awareness of various issues in the shipbuilding industry, and as he puts it is forbidden to upload pictures one has not taken, since I go this is what puts Please only upload pictures you do either own the copyright for - or those For which you have the explicit permission of the copyright owner. and I gather all these these circumstances, I hope this is of eposicion terminate this nasty problem, and I almost do the same as some did, and I delete this and then given to annoy people who in all good faith , got the shots, but this will not be in my case, I raise the photos tnto obtain cost me much time and expenditure groups, not getting anything in return, only that people see them, and enjoy and HaSatan even bend down to their collections, I feel satisfied, if I see it, and if anyone thinks otherwise I show it, which makes uploading photos and doing it and you get in return? that is so hard to upload photos that are not, whether they are stolen or unauthorized photos,
Hola de nuevo, acabo de escribir una carta a la persona que va a resolver este problema, y creo y espero en pocos días a más tardar, tres de ellos pueden mostrar la carta a ser más de una persona, asegúrese de estar ansiosos de ver, me esta me gusta mucho el debate, mañana vamos a continuar con el tema
Don't understand the problem here. There is no competition in the amount of pictures.If Javier has an agreement with the owner of these pics, it's ok for me and for sure it's good for this community.
It's stupid you have to ask a letter to prove you can upload these pictures.
If you uploaded them with another account nobody should ask anything.
First of all, I would lend my support to my friend Javier, I think these pictures are doing a great job himself with the information in the wiki of those boats. I think these photos are worthy of the show by the sheer quality of them to be made by him, but as he says has written permission from the owner. I believe in my humble opinion, that the solution to the problem would be that those photos were accompanied by a comment such as "courtesy of ..." and so would end all these controversies about both bother
I agree whit " mtarrago " some kind of comment is a good solution or other mark
Thanks @ Stevo good friend if I raise some shots with permission but always thinking of the interests of Digital Seas and as I said Once that boy to put all my half audar everything possible on this webpage that took him far affection, then, is that only the best upload photos on this page, Although I have other pages I devote 100% 100 to this
and the commentary of Michael I totally agree, to make mention of that photo is one thing to take into account
I do not know why the amount was a real battle just for some shots is what I try to upload them and give them a push and I spend many hours apart putting all the data I have, and I do this? is simply for people to see and enjoy for nothing, I all almost every day, boy the port to locate the ships come and go, and when I come to home with one or a few shots I am happy, the climb and point, and there are thousands like me and people who like thousands of this hobby, and is so simple, that evil does come up a couple of photos that I take no s but are authorized and within days it demonstrates ar, And I want it so,
Thank you very much everybody. Javier Alonso
Well after all we are approaching Christmas and as at this time we have many things to do in advance that I wish you all a merry Christmas and a good prosperous new year "2010 PEACE AND HAPPINESS"
So its now ok to surf around on the webb or if you work in the marineindustri copy photos aslong as you have the owners/company right . May question is? - was this what the owners of community whanted in the beging when they started...
Best reagards to all
It is ok to upload vessel images where users have clearing / agreements / copyrights for. So if you talk to an owner of the photograph and reach an agreement, just give a short description to the image and this will be perfect with the makers of this site.
There are good ways established, to react to copyright frauds quickly. But not every image made from a helicopter or in perfect quality will be in question, only because the average user can't take it that way.
We do have many professional acting photographers at this site. I do not appreciate a cultur of mistunes and distrust. Also, everybody has got a second chance with us....this is an open site, my name is MindOpen.
Hello. the respect I want to comment that Digital Seas is a page dedicated to the world of photography of ships in general, and deserve the best shots, and I will now, il try and get my best shots, and also upload the pictures where it is authorized, in some cases will be the exclusive and you do not like, I can not do anything, I and all my friends will do so, a greeting and that'll be good if you are ill, SANTA CLAUS not leave you beautiful photos.
¡Ho, Ho, Ho! ...
Javier
chan2, I think we have the same feeling. On DS you will only see my pictures. If somebody tells me that I can upload his pictures, I will tell him to start an account.
Javier has his own opinion. It's good that he want to upload pictures from somebody else. It's good for this community. For sure, this is not a contest, just a place to look pictures.
If you upload your pictures or you have to agreement from the owner of the pictures, just upload and share it with us.
OK the rules are laid down now.....
A will still only upload photos that a can stand for ( Taken by Me ). Thats most fair a think, but that is MY opinion
What others do is up to them......
All best......
!!!
@Stevo: nice conclusion and good said!
We should leave some options for all of us. I do not believe in black or white situations. Sometimes we have to live with a bit gray too. Lets put some trust into the development, fast reaction is always possible.
I will always prefer images shot by spotters...
Hello again, well I got the license in my hands, and I send him copies MindOpen, and be waiting for the permission to put me in this forum, greetings from Javier
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Who owns the pictures up here?
who has the copyright?
@CX9AAW. Are you asking who owns the copyright of each photograph after it has been uploaded to DS? Or are you asking something else? Copyright laws are very complex and differ from country to country, you need to make it very clear as to what you are asking.
@ IanJohn
When uploading photos to give / share ownership of my photos with SD and thus have rights over it.
@ CX9AAW
Firstly I must say that I am not a legal expert, but it is my understanding that in England, copyright ownership is that of the photographer unless: -
a) The photographer was hired or employed to take the photos in which case the copyright belongs to the person, organisation or company who hired or employed the photographer.
b) If the copyright owner sells or gives away the photograph he may or may not pass copyright ownership to that new owner.
If you, the photographer and copyright holder, uploads a photograph to the www. then you would still be the owner of the copyright unless there was an agreement that the copyright passes to a third party, eg the website.
I do not believe that it is a condition of uploading to this site that would effect your copyright in any way.
Spanish law will be different to English law and as the site is German this will also affect things.
Hope this is some help, but remember this is only my opinion, and I may well be wrong.
@ MindOpen, do you have any input?
What IanJohn has written is,in general as I understand photographic copyright in the UK.However you should understand that when photographs are uploaded to the internet and if the site makes those images downloadable then they become available to anyone in the world to download.These downloaded images then may be used in two ways
1.They may be for personal use and not used in any comercial way for gain or otherwise
2.Thry may be 'stolen'directly for gain either for use as a photographic on,say, a web site (not necessarily financial gain) or the may be offered on to a third party for financial gain.These images will invariably be of high quality.
This is the point where real copyright infringement comes in as someone is making money from your property.However,in this situation we already have potentialy three countries copyright laws involved:-the country of the image owner,the country of the thief and the country of the purchaser.
The chances of obtaining a decision as to your copyright is remote and would be very expensive,as with any litigation the real winners are the lawyers.
The rules,therefore on uploading images to a website are as follows.
Do not upload images that may be valuble to another party or you would not like anyone to have acess to.
Understand that your images will probably copied in some way by another party.
Try to chose a site that blocks downloads.
Accept that if you see your prized image on the front page of a newspaper that there will be no photo cridit nor will the cheque be in the post.
I know it is a cruel world but thats life.If you value an image don't upload it, I accept that every image I upload is efectively lost
I have just carried out an expriment.
If I logout and view the site as a guest the only images I have access to are
1.The latest uploads
2.The two pages of uploads on the Open Space Overview page
3.The one initial image on any vessels page
If I log on I have access to all the above plus any other image on a vessels data page.
However if I then download an image that I know I uploaded at 1.7MB 3711x2472 pixels I have an image of 458k 605x404 pixels.Any image downloaded comes in around this size.
In conclusion I believe that any image downloaded (stolen) from this site would not be comercialy viable
@ rob1053
can be for personal use and not used in any commercial manner for profit or otherwise
correct and should be, but unfortunately it this way, what I mean is this.
http://www.abc.es/Hemeroteca/imagenes/abc/29112009/Nacional/ortube-berria--300x180.jpg
http://nikazetari.diariovasco.com/edicion2010/articulo.php?id=5543
And not even name me as the owner of the photo of the ship, "Ortubé Berria" how sad is life, not to recognize your work
@CX9AAW
I see what you mean,Javier,The images are clearly stolen from the digital seas site as two of the have the ds logo across them and indeed the image sizes are smaller than the download size from this site.This shows how underhanded the press can be.I am sorry for you that your property has been abused but I fear that any action you take could be long with uncertain results.In the UK we do have some lawyers that work on a 'no win,no fee' basis,if you have the same in Spain it may be worth consulting one if you feel strongly about it
I agree with you ... It is true that we upload pictures that are vulnerable to be stolen. It is true that some people ask your permission for personal use, website or anything else. What I see that some websites use bad photos with copyright with some profit motive and that does not seem right (and I hope that this website is not one of them). That has happened to Javier does not seem right that in a medium like television is using a non-free use picture, because what is, have downloaded from this site without permission. I wonder: do we defend ourselves in these situations?. Greetings.
@CX9AAW
I sugest you find out more about copyright laws in Spain and then contact these sites and ask for an explanation!
All my images now have copyright notice,my exif allways has had.I don't realy like the notice especialy when it infringes on the ship image,however.....
Question.My copyright notice consists of a copyright symbol,year and my name:should I include an e mail address?
Regards
Rob
Rob,
Maybe you can make your copyright a little bit smaller.
You upload your pictures to DS. DS has a copyright policy, however, you as uploader still have final copyright.
I also put my copyright on all my pictures, so I have no problem with it.
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