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@miraflores
I asume you are refering to 'MelvinBlanck' I wonder if he knows?
@Ian,
I started deleting 1500 of my fotos after he uploaded 115 fotos of just one vessel.
Then 114 images were deleted (I don't know who did it) and now he starts again uploading rubbish.
I gave him several comments also in german language because he is just 15 years old and I don't know if he understands english.
Thats why I stop all my activities and wait what happens within the next days. But possible is that I delete all my fotos.
@miraflores,
I have sent two e-mails via your web site in the hope that we can comunicate in private. If you receive them, please reply.
Hola saludos
Bueno mi comentario es que voy a intentar solo subir un foto de cada buque,a mi me gustaria colocar como mínimo tres pero,no se que pasa que me es muy difícil encontrar mis buques para dejar las mas bonitas,antes era mas fácil pero ahora se puso mas complicado,es por eso que tengo de algunos barcos 4 o mas tomas,creo a mi entender que habría que limitar a cuatro fotos por cada buque,
pero sigo diciendo que antes estaba mas fácil para eliminar las fotos repetidas.
Javier
Hola saludos
Well my point is that I will try to upload a single photo of each ship, I would like to put at least three, but that is not happening to me is very difficult to find ships to leave my most beautiful before but now it was easier became more complicated, that is why some boats have 4 or more shots, I think in my opinion should be limited to four photos per ship
but I was saying that before it easy to remove several photos.
Javier
Miraflores,
Guys from DS are on holiday now. Wait before you delete all your pics.
I agree that we should use some rules about upload pictures, but I find it childish that you will delete all your pictures, only for this reason.
This is still a young community and they never had the problem before that 1 person is uploading 150 pictures of only 1 vessel without a picture of the vessel.
I agree that there should be some people who are watch over the quantity of a picture and I would prefer that you are 1 of them. You know a lot about copyright abuse.
Maybe Lars & Co have to make a garbage icon under a picture. When 10 members hit that garbage icon, the vessel is good for deletion.
<<quote MindOpen>>
I love your serious work and the way of taking two good shots of the vessel up and downhill.
<<unquote>>
When I write uphill and downhill I do not mean a bowshot and a sternshot of a ship, I mean a ship is going uphill/downhill on an unleveled horizon. (Could be straightened with PICASA)
@miraflores: I completely agree with your opinions regarding the quality standards. I disagree with the way of reaching new ways via putting pressure or stop talking about the issue. Many people are putting effort into this place and we should try to talk to each other as man in an honest way. I will always do.
@all: thanks for the patience, we've been for the first holidays this year to a small island without any connectivity....
I talked with my older son (13 years) last night about his gaming environments, chats and moderated worlds (4story etc), which was quiet remarkable for me. He said, without someone in control, people inside forum talks would probably kill each other....:)
I am familiar with the topic of admins and moderators for some years and I think it's time to introduce the concept to Digital-Seas. So here are my ideas:
- we will set up new userrights like : ImageAdmin, ForumAdmin, PowerUser
- starting with the ImageAdmin, I would love to talk to famous uploaders like miraflores, stevo, ian, pluijm etc about taking control in this group in terms of quality decisions:
- the ImageAdmin sees two extra icons on every vesselthumbnail :
- copyright abuse (user will be blocked, until issues are cleared)
- image not accepted (image gets deleted after 2 weeks, but is immediately hidden on the website)
after clicking one of this icons the admin would have to give a short explanation for this decision, which gets also send to the Uploader for information
- all regular users wan't see any of this functionality
- it would be a fast way to handle all issues around image uploading
we would also need to open a discussion about rules and quality measures we are using....
We will introduce this new functionality this thursday (martin and me are going to the hack booth at noon)... Any comments are welcome !! Lars
I changed today the order of shown vessel-images on the vessel detail page.
Thinking about a sort order reflecting the vote count, I thought it is much more honoring the uploader, if the first attached image is also shown as first.
So older uploads are first now in the list. We still can change this order later on in any way.
have to find now the bug, which causes the pagers for the images to dissapear....
I like the idea of forming an ImageAdmin Group, I for one would be willing to participate. I think the net should be cast as wide as posible to get Ideas, Then a small team should formed to form evaluate them and to produce a working format. If we get this right then I thing many members concerns could be eliminated.
I know that Miraflores and Stevo have both voiced an interest in the past and I would hope that they would be both willing to get involved as well.
Lets go for it!!
I believe in quality over quantity. If you have several pictures of a vessel, weed-out the marginal images and post the best one you have. Okay, maybe a couple of angles is OK (broadside, quarter-view, then bow or stern) -- but not 5 or 6 shots (or more) of the same boat on the same day.
I am a rather new member in this very nice site and I approve the fact that one good shot of a full ship is the only photo needed.
But I have two questions:
This morning I took photos of a ship passing in a channel, so no chance to take one full side image: In this case two angled views, one from the bow and one from aft , giving so a complete sight of the vessel, are acceptable?
Since many years ago, when I started my photo collection, I always thought a poor photo of a ship is always better than no photo at all. Does this not apply to digital-seas?
For instance, if one posts a long distance shot of a ship of which there are no images in the database, then at least a visitor could have an idea of what she looks like. As soon as a better photo is posted then the bad one can be cancelled.
What do you think?
I don't think so....I always thought a poor photo of ship is always better to put in rubbish bin than in any gallery. I am getting sick of those taken miles away,poor lighting, towards sun, poor post processing, increased contrast etc.....keep rubbish in bin or recycle it if you can.
@Rasman:
>> As soon as a better photo is posted then the bad one can be cancelled.
To find this particular moment is exactly the problem within every private image collection. Almost nobody goes back and decides again about things done in the past. This is true for other topics in live also :-)
I think it is only a question of time, to have perfect pictures for most of the vessels around in Europe or America, with that many very good spotters taking action.
We want to be the place with the best quality possible.
So there is no better way of doing the decision right in the moment the question accours:
- in the case of a bad image (gray, blurred, long distance, foggy, partly) hit the delete button - or for DS: do not upload
- our moderators will do so in the moment they are getting aware
@ais-split: of course the matter of deciding about quality is a very personal thing. To remember the special moment of taking the image and the circumstances could be reason enough to love the image yourself. I hope that we will work out a common understanding and rules for this Site.
hi, i just joined the site today and uploaded a photo of bbc africa...i have lots of photos taken from my station, but few are full ship photos and mainly taken during the night...are these ok?
Welcome to this community.
Nightshots are welcome and if possible only full ship pictures
My photo's are 1024 x768
You can upload them as large as possible, we do not have size restrictions.
My Nikon D90 resolution downsampled to:
PixelXDimension 2144
PixelYDimension 1424
is a practical size.
What a lot of hot air!
I uploaded some,admittedly poor shots last year and got rightly, poor reviews.
Having upped my game I got some great shots of Kess vehicle carriers at the weekend.Is that a dirty word? Kess? Vehicle carrier?As it is Carsan's shot of Randzel (28/03/10) is,you have to laugh,pretty cool and yet?
Oh well.Cawarra's shots are untouched,non photoshopped and pretty cool too.
(28/03/10).
No offence Carsan.
Rant over : )
The problem in this community is that some users only see the last 5 pictures and give stars at these photos, but, when I go spotting, I take 10-20 photos of vessels. If you only see the last 5, you miss some good shots. This is why I don't give stars.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2vhuc8w.jpg
Why this comment, because I uploaded last week some nice shots from a tower 45 m high and never received only 1 quotation, but some photos here got a 5 star without any reason.
Cawarra, I love your shots, keep on spotting.
Yep, you are right Stevo. Here is another perfectly working link option, to browse all image uploads on digital-seas in a timeline view:
http://www.digital-seas.com/vessel_search/vessel_gallery/uploads_timeline.html
Thanks Stevo,
I really appreciate your comments.
I have limited opportunities to ship spot but last weekend it all came together.Time off,good weather and ships and tugs.
I am new to this site and at first I did like the competitiveness of trying to get " THE SHOT". Now I get it.
Happy Easter and Happy Shipspotting!
in fact agree that the picture quality is very important. but I intend to see that there was no picture to illustrate them and I having in my files, so I decided to illustrate them so that users Tiesse minimal knowledge of the ship they were seeking. Probably later when another user has a more recent photo could post and replacing the existing picture. This was my intention. I believe that my files before deleting Image ID: 71574 ID: 71581 should note that these vessels are no visual references.
@comteluz: I understand your intention. but the question of quality and a special framing for the image is only answered with the "right" image. Shots taken at the pier are not easy to do, often only the name stays as a distinction.
We decided to come up with full vessel shots only, to give users a common visualization way. This needs a harge selection (also for my own shots :-). lars
Congratulations to CX9AAW ,
He's the only one who is able to take 4 and 5 star pictures, unfortunately that some of these pictures are from a bad quantity. This rating system is not fair for all who is uploading pictures. I made my decision and I stop as image-admin and stop with uploading my pictures to DS.
Have a nice spotting day,
Stevo
@ Stevo
1st I have no fault that I have friends who vote
2nd I want to be quiet, but you seem to want to mess, you know that these things I like very much, if not tease me, go and take a couple of beers and see if you calm down,
3rd yours With that attitude you will never have friends, you are very controversial, give bad answers, you are so vulgar.
4 Always these "CRYING" just everyday things you complain about, but important, important not interest you, such as making friends, this is a defect that you if do not vote your photos that are not working, I never I will vote, why do not deserve it,
5th On weekends, you like to play the bagpipes, so you know, do not break my head, and go to sleep it off, before you were born, I was already Antwerp playing the bagpipes, but not mess with people .
Javier Alonso Castro
@ Stevo
1ª Yo no tengo la culpa de que tenga amigos que me voten
2ª Quiero estar tranquilo, pero tu parece que quieres follón, tu sabes que estas cosas me gustan mucho, a si que no me provoques, vete a tomar un par de cervezas a ver si te calmas,
3ª Con esa actitud tuya jamas podrás tener amigos, eres muy polémico, das malas contestaciones, eres muy vulgar.
4 Siempre estas "LLORANDO" solo haces quejarte por cosas banales, pero no importantes, las importantes no te interesan, como por ejemplo hacer amigos, ese es un defecto que tienes, si no votan tus fotos, serán por que no valen, yo jamas te votare, por que no lo mereces,
5ª Los fines de semana, te gusta tocar la GAITA, así que ya sabes no me rompas cabeza, y vete a dormir la mona, que antes de que tu nacieras, ya estaba yo por Amberes tocando la Gaita, pero sin meterme con la gente.
Javier Alonso Castro
@ Stevo
I'm going to baptize as "LLORINGAS" Digital Seas
@ Javier & Stevo
You seem to be both in agreement. Stevo is complaining that some people are not voting in the way it was intended, That you should rate the individual picture, and not the member who took it.
Javier is confirming that he has friends who give 4 or 5 stars for his pictures, not because they are excellent, but because they were taken by him, I suspect he does the same for some of his friends.
It is this type of situation that brings the voting system in to disrepute and I believe due to the arguments it causes, it should be abandoned now.
Whilst i agree in principle with Ian's comments in that I do not like the star system ,nor do I use it anymore,and would like to see it abandoned I would say that when I did use it I,personaly,used it fairly and awarded the stars on the merit of the photograph.
I no longer use the star system but now comment on photographs that I like and photoghaphs where I feel that the member could have done better(in a nice way).
I get more pleasure out of this and I hope that the recipients do as well.
I do count myself as one of Javier's friends and do comment quite a lot on his images as I also do for mtarrago,grassbrook,rampopo pixelopel and,I believe some of yours Ian and Steven's as well.In the main these listed are members whose images I like.Until the system is abandoned,and I belive in a previous post Lars said he did not like it and was considering it's future,we should ignore it as it can provoke the worst in us(to my embarrasment I recently blew up after a 1 star rating of Azura and publicly appologised) To quote Lars 'come on guys lets have some fun.
Respectfoly
Rob
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